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Tailslide
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posted 02-01- 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tailslide   Click Here to Email Tailslide     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

To make the Russian guages consistent between planes and to reduce the size of the plane pack/hard drive requirements I'd like to propose a new directory similar to the existing ones for the german and british.. etc for cockpits. This contains instrument textures, and a gunsight. Right now I just have it as copies of the german files (also metric) that have been renamed.

Here's the file, you need to extract to a
media\aircraft\cockpit\Rus
directory
http://firelight.dynip.com/_webposts/RPV1.zip

Laika and anyone else on Russian planes (Jerry?) how does this sound?

TS

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Laika 801
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posted 02-02- 07:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laika 801   Click Here to Email Laika 801     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah we should do this !!! Also the Weapons should be consistent ! Did you allready model the RS-82 rockets and did you got any information on russian gunsights ??

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Laika 801
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posted 02-02- 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laika 801   Click Here to Email Laika 801     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I try to get some scans of russian instruments (AN-2) from an Antonov-2 Club in Switzerland (they actually try to send me sounds of the ASh-62 engine) maybe this takes us a step forward.

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Yardstick
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posted 02-02- 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yardstick   Click Here to Email Yardstick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tail, if you want images of Russian instruments have you tried Oleg Maddox who is heading up the IL-2 Stormvik development team. I think I remember seeming some cockpit shots with Cyrillic gauges shown a while back (SimArena has a series of articles on the sim). Oleg has posted on my IL-2 thread, so you may be able to get his e-mail address there.

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Tailslide
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posted 02-02- 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tailslide   Click Here to Email Tailslide     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Laika, I have some Yak3 cockpit photos on my planestats link I sent you.. the one in the Yak looks like a round white cylinder with reflecting site on top.

The site is mounted on a raised curving bar between the pilot and the dash.

I haven't done the rockets yet.

Yard thanks, I can try Oleg.. wonder if he'll be willing to help out 'the competition' though.

One other advantage to doing the common textures is we'll be reducing the amount of texture memory used, or at least how much the textures are swapped when you go between cockpits..

TS

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Laika 801
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posted 02-02- 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laika 801   Click Here to Email Laika 801     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I cant find the pic - there are to many !

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Tailslide
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posted 02-02- 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tailslide   Click Here to Email Tailslide     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Look in the Yak3Stats/Yak3Pics directory

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Laika 801
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posted 02-02- 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laika 801   Click Here to Email Laika 801     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
got them !!!

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Laika 801
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posted 02-02- 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laika 801   Click Here to Email Laika 801     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The pics from the NZFPM (?) are the best but I´m not sure if they use the original russian instruments (looks more like western instruments), gunsight also - the one in the original manual pic looks a bit different to the one in the restored yak form NZFPM.

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Tailslide
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posted 02-02- 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tailslide   Click Here to Email Tailslide     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I can't tell about the instruments all I can see are numbers.

The ones in the original manual are from an early run of the Yak 3, the three views drawings I've found are different from each other and from photographs too.. apparently there were lots of small changes during the yak3 production, such as engine size and the shape of the spinner.

TS

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Laika 801
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posted 02-02- 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laika 801   Click Here to Email Laika 801     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Research for soviet planes isn´t easy - too many changes and types and mismatches. Did you got access to a big library near you ? Maybe you could look for some books there. In some international catalogs I found a lot of books (for the I-16) but they are all stored in libraries in the UK or somewhere else. Mmhhpf - if I can find some on this I´ll post it here !

LK out !

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Tailslide
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posted 02-02- 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tailslide   Click Here to Email Tailslide     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

If that wasn't strange enough I was browsing through some russian photos looking at spitfire MkVb's that they had on lend/lease that were repainted in soviet colors. All the photos said they were MkVb but they had the non-bubble canopy like the early Mk1s. Since Stalin asked britain for their obsolete equipment I'm wondering if they were Mk1s that had been converted to MkVb's

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Laika 801
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posted 02-03- 07:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laika 801   Click Here to Email Laika 801     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It seems everything was/is possible in the VVS

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juzz
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posted 02-04- 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juzz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's a pic from combatsim of the Il-2 'pit. It's a bit "sketchy" though, but it might help a bit

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Tailslide
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posted 02-04- 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tailslide   Click Here to Email Tailslide     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Way to go Juzz ! The site on the IL2 looks different maybe because it only strafed things but the guages are almost readable..


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Tailslide
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posted 02-04- 02:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tailslide   Click Here to Email Tailslide     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Any bets on which one is the fuel guage?

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Laika 801
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posted 02-04- 04:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laika 801   Click Here to Email Laika 801     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
51 looks like it (above 15)

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Laika 801
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posted 02-04- 04:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Laika 801   Click Here to Email Laika 801     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
or 28 ? or 29 ?

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