posted 01-26- 01:23 PM               

I know this should be in off topic but no one visits there. I ask that this just stay in general for as long as its hot or a day or 2. Thanks

K as some of you guys know I'm getting read to upgrade (or should I say build my own computer as this one is borrowed)

I was shooting for an athlon 500 with a K7M but my girlfriend was cut back in hours at work and we just can't afford it now (with that new 300 watt case and all)

I have been looking at the cel line and they seem to fit the bill. I have pretty much decided on the 466mhz Fireing squad had it running at 525mhz and at that speed beating a p3 500 in some 3d (thats none SSE p3 500 I think)

My prices I have gotten have been (In Canada remember)

all cel

433 $139
466 $179
500 $239

Seeing as the 466 can go to 525 I think it just makes more sence That extra 60 plus tax(15%) is just to rich for my blood at the moment> ( and remember I still have to buy all kinds of other parts)

K so my main question is What motherboard should I use? I like asus and ALOT of people seem to be using the abit boards.
I was thinking of going with a p2 p3 board and an adapter just in case I was to go with a p3 at some point in the future.
But if there was a decent Cel board at a low price I might do that to save money.

Any way give me some ideas as i have no clue what is going on in the world of cel.

My secondary question is about ram I know the cels are still using 66mhz or maybe 75-83 for overclocking. But I was thinking of buying pc133 ram just for when I do the next upgrade. Its not that much more expensive.

REMEMBER PRICES ARE IN CANADAIN SO DON'T HAVE A HEART ATTACK hehe

My options are

2 x 64@pc100 for 119 each = 238
1 x128@pc100 for 247
1 x128@px133 for 269

I don't know about you guys but that extra $31 on top of 2 64@pc100 seems like a good deal for memory that will be at the leading edge a little longer and leave one more slot open for more ram later.

Anyways thanks for reading my novel. Any help is apriciated.

Oh almost forgot. Me and Mad Dog are both on the upgrade/build a new computer tail. This means we need parts in a bad way.

Any and all parts (yes even 3 gig hard drives and sb16s) Anyone with used parts from and upgrade or what ever. LET US KNOW PLEASE.

posted 01-27- 04:29 AM               

Nat... I'm buying the pc133 not for overclocking (since the cels only use 66mhz) I'm buying it for future overclocking. What if the next time I upgrade that chip and board combo call for pc133 ram? Do I want to buy all new ram? I don't think so

I listed the price diff bettween pc100 and pc133 and its only $22 more for pc133.

Bomber... Yeah i'm almost for certain going with an abit BF6 or BE6-II Unless anyone else has some better ideas or bad things to tell me about those boards.

Whirlwind... I'm probly going for a slocket I don't know why your having problems but i hear good things about using a slocket for over clocking.

posted 01-27- 06:44 AM               

K dole thats a lot of info hahaha

posted 01-27- 11:16 AM               

Whirl... Yeah i'm getting a bx board i'm pretty sure.

ALSO I don't know whats going on with computers I can't see why you would be having a problem running at 110f I put a temp monitor inside my playstation runs at 120f at its hottest with no problems at all. And thats in the winter imagine with a 30 cel (not sure what that is in F) room temp?

It runs flawlessly so why can't a state of the art(read not 5 years old with no heat sink or fan) P3 chip run at that temp with no problems?

posted 01-27- 11:58 AM               

Overclocking the bus to strange values like 70, 75mhz etc will usually cause some card in your computer to object it's not a good solution.

Cel300a were selling for $120 about six months ago..

TS

posted 01-27- 12:11 PM               

Tail yeah i would have considered a cel 300 but i don't think they are around any more
If you want to upgrade and sell me your i would be into that

I hear what you are saying about the 100mhz bus but it doesn't seem to be as big of a deal as some people say. Firing squads review on the 466 had it running at 525 and keeping up with a p3 500 thats nothing to sneeze at in my view even with a 66 mhz bus it was keeping up.

That would suit me just fine

posted 01-27- 12:25 PM               

Make sure to back up your hard drive when you get your chip I've heard of hard drives getting corrupted when you set the bus speed funny.

TS

posted 01-27- 01:07 PM               

AH backups are for losers HAHAA

Yeah i'll get my favs and my icq thats about it.

thanks for the tip.