posted 01-24- 08:50 AM               

Hi everyone, long time no post
SDOE is still going as strong as ever. I am feeling a bit lame for bugging out on the PPack early on, but *RealLife* got in the way. What little time I have had for SDOE, has been spent in the lobbies :-)

Thanks to all the OPS people who have worked so hard to get this thing released. I hope that I can get more involved in the near future.

I am not very knowledgeable as far as the match-ups between planes, but I would like to help out now that I have a little (very little) more time available. What's the most efficient way to get the plane-to-plane testing done on these FMs?

Several months ago, I brought up the idea of having a central location for plane testing. A site where SDOE pilots could go and learn how to test the various planes, and then enter their results in a form. The data could then be compiled in a spread sheet for the OPS guys to use. Is this crazy?
Seems to me that this would:

a) get the OPS guys more raw data to work with.

b) give the average SDOE pilot a simple way to contribute to the community by testing a few planes.

c) be a great learning experience for pilots. In performing the tests, you would learn more about the limits of each plane.

I have both the server space and the knowledge to put the site together.

I think that if people weren't required to do hours of testing, many would participate and the data might be of some value.

Any thoughts?

Esox =FC=

posted 01-24- 10:11 PM               

If you send me an email I can point you to a URL where I keep a ton of information on these planes. I'm always looking for more and of course very interested if any of the planes don't match real world tests.

I think there also may be testing methods already posted on the OPP forum if you do a search.

TS

posted 01-25- 01:34 AM            

Spitfire performance(Marks I,II,V,VIII,IX and XIV): http://www.fourthfightergroup.com/eagles/spittest.html

posted 01-25- 08:59 AM               

It's too bad that they didn't do reports in the past as they do today with the doghouse plots. Much of the "little details" simply get hidden in tables. Look at the difference between the 190 tests and the Spit for instance.

Heck, I'm surprised he got the 190 up to 36000ft! He also got it to just over 412, which seems correct. I wonder what fuel they were using for the tests?

posted 01-25- 10:12 AM               

Then again that's from memory and may be total bollocks, and I'm just trying to stir it

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posted 01-25- 10:32 AM            

More links:
F6F Hellcat manual
Me109G/K speed charts

posted 01-26- 08:01 AM               

The fuel question may be a lot more important than you think. Look in most any book and you'll see the Ki-84 listed as being able to get something like 420MPH in WEP. Well, not really. In fact the reason was the Navy got their specimen home in poor shape (like all of them at the time) and starting patching. When they were done they ran it on 130octane and tuned the snot out of the engine. In Japanese service it was barely able to poke through 370.

So while I make no claims that it happened here with the test data you posted, it's worth considering that it _might_ have happened with the 190 too.

As to the last part, remember that drag is going with the square or higher of speed. That means power requirements are non-linear. So yeah, that 60hp may get you 2mph, but it may get you 20, hard to say.

BTW, where'd you get the books? They seem perfect for this sort of thing! I've tried contacting what's left of Macchi (mergers, sigh) without any luck.