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Topic: A question that has bugged me???
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Private Roger
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posted 01-16- 10:45 AM
   
I know someone on this forum will know the answer.In EAW the British pilots when out of ammo call "I'm Winchester" or "I've gone Winchester". I had heard that "Winchester" was a term used by Jet Jockeys to say they were out of missles and switching to guns. If that is true, how does it apply to EAW and WWII? What is the orign of this term? Sorry if it seems like a dumb question, but it's always left me scratching my head. Thanks
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Falck
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posted 01-16- 10:46 AM
I think it generally means youre out of ammo. In a modern jet once youre out of missles youre pretty much done anyway imo  IP: Logged |
Private Roger
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posted 01-16- 10:54 AM
Yeah, I kinda figured it meant you were out of ammo. I just don't understand the term as it applies.IP: Logged |
nealg
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posted 01-16- 11:04 AM
It is puzzling; wonder what the origin of denoting Winchester as out of ammo was? To a resident of the USA, Winchester - being the famous rifle - would actually hold a much different meaning.Anyone know where the association originated? ------------------
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JV44Siggi
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posted 01-16- 11:44 AM
I suspect it's an old public-school term, possibly something to do with cricket. Very many RAF pilots of the second world war came out of the public schools, Winchester having a prestigious example of one. I can't say I've ever heard the expession before EAW came out.IP: Logged |
Yardstick
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posted 01-16- 01:07 PM
I'm certain the use of this jet era term in both EAW and SDOE is just plain incorrect. I have never heard the term used in any other context bar jet combat. As for it being a public school term - not one that I ever heard.And it is not nor has never been a cricket term - trust me on that one. ------------------
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Jaguar
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posted 01-16- 01:17 PM
but I saw a british pilot use the term in a movie one time.......... movies don't lie!......... do they?  ------------------
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JV44Siggi
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posted 01-16- 01:47 PM
Maybe it simply refers to something not good, ie running out of ammo same as going to Winchester instead of Eton or Harrow. Giggle. IP: Logged |
Mr Bigglesworth
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posted 01-16- 05:41 PM
I agree with Yardstick. I've never heard or read the term in any film, book or even comic in relation to the RAF in the Second World War. And it certainly has nothing to do with cricket.By the way, it amuses me that sim creators make us Brits speak in a correct way. For example, the British radio chatter in SDOE refers to "unidentified aircraft" instead of "bogey" and enemy aircraft instead on "bandit". In other words, the Americans get all the slang. Yet these terms were already in use in the RAF in 1939 (as far as I know). I don't know whether we stole them from the Americans or vice versa. But we had the slang too. Mr Bigglesworth IP: Logged |
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