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Pete Hawk
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posted 01-09- 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pete Hawk   Click Here to Email Pete Hawk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I set aside the F-15 to work on another one, my favorite...
http://members.xoom.com/hawkersop/images/F14_1.jpg
http://members.xoom.com/hawkersop/images/F14_2.jpg
http://members.xoom.com/hawkersop/images/F14_3.jpg http://members.xoom.com/hawkersop/images/F14_4.jpg
http://members.xoom.com/hawkersop/images/Newest%20Jet.jpg

As you can see wing sweep works. Control gets tricky but hopefully after more time it'll be all good.

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Pete Hawk
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posted 01-09- 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pete Hawk   Click Here to Email Pete Hawk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Darn cheap sites... you need to cut and paste the url. Sorry about that.

Or try it from here... http://members.xoom.com/hawkersop/images/

Again this is a plane that I really like, and that's my reason behind building it. I love to see cool planes in SDOE. I started this one today around 5:00PM, and rapidly got to the point you see in the pics, using my F-15 as a template. For those that like/want these, don't worry, you'll get them soon enough. I have a plan.

Tonight and tomorrow I'll start texture mapping this. Hope some of you like it.
It may or may not be a contest bird.

[This message has been edited by Pete Hawk (edited 01-09-2000).]

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Pachy
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posted 01-09- 05:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pachy   Click Here to Email Pachy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Brilliant work Pete.

Don't you like the P-80 (hint hint)?

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Sv
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posted 01-09- 07:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sv   Click Here to Email Sv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does the wing sweep? Does this affect FM? Does SDOE model wing sweep? I guess the airpoint will move back but other than that? Do the little front winglets slide out?

Great work Pete, so cool!

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WWI in SDOE!

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Pete Hawk
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posted 01-09- 07:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pete Hawk   Click Here to Email Pete Hawk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The wings do sweep (see the pics, taken in series). Yes the model and air pt's move as well. Flight model is affected by this! For now though it gets kinda wierd when they are swepted back. Gets tough to control. Luckily though the AI only flys with them swept forward and so do a good job flying.

The winglet things will work, just as soon as I put them in. I thought out the wing sweep dofs and pivot points in my head, did it in OPS, and it was perfect the first time (this REALLY surprised me that it worked as I thought it should/would/could )

OpenPlane is soooooo cool.

Btw, if any of you are brand new to airplanes, especially F-14's, this plane is nicknamed the Tomcat. And another variation that was intended for mud-moving (ground attack) is known as the Bombcat. I haven't decided which varient this will be yet, but most likely a later one, as opposed to say, an A-model.

Final note, framerates with this go from 60-90 fps! Keeping poly count way way down on this one as much as possible.

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AE71_INFERNO
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posted 01-09- 08:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AE71_INFERNO   Click Here to Email AE71_INFERNO     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
can you get burrners on this baby?

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Pete Hawk
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posted 01-09- 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pete Hawk   Click Here to Email Pete Hawk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the game engine would need some modifying first. Mainly for things like, a burner sound and burner textures. Raising the thrust to burner levels isn't a problem though (at least I don't think so for now).

It happened again! I just spent the entire night, and I mean night (it's now 7:00AM) flying this thing! Man is it fun! Can't wait to pass it around to the lot of ya

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JT
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posted 01-09- 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JT   Click Here to Email JT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pete,
Looks great! Just two questions, though...

1. It looks like you lost smoothing on the nose and canopy of the Tomcat. Any idea what happened?

2. How do you work so darn fast? grrr :-)

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Jaguar
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posted 01-09- 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jaguar   Click Here to Email Jaguar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice! Anybody have that Top Gun song stuck in their head? hehehe

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Pete Hawk
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posted 01-09- 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pete Hawk   Click Here to Email Pete Hawk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
JT,

One thing I seem to be running up against lately (using smoothing) is this very bad shadowing/flashiness of some parts when flying. I tried one of RoadToads ideas in Nendo, hardening the edges of a part and then export it, smooth it out in Max, and then import it with OPS into the SM file, but sometimes it doesn't come out right.

Just imagine the plane in an aileron roll and certain poly's flash light and dark... it's driving me nuts!! Is there a rock solid way to fix this? JT, I've ICQ'd you recently but I never heard back. I'd love to go over some of this with you if you have a chance.

19597122 is my ICQ. Working fast... well, it's easy when the plane you are working on is similar to another one you've already done. Thats really where all the speed comes in. Plus Sv's tutorials have helped me immensely on the dof editing. Before that was my worst nightmare!

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JT
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posted 01-09- 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JT   Click Here to Email JT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pete,

>One thing I seem to be running up against lately (using smoothing) is this very bad shadowing/flashiness of some parts when flying.

Hmm.... I've seen this before. I'll bet the vertex normals of the parts in question were lost. I remember that happening to a model I was working on a while back. Open the LOD files of the erroneous parts and look at the vertex normals.
The other possibility is that you need to simply weld vertices. Have you done that?


>JT, I've ICQ'd you recently but I never heard back.

Hey, just email me. I haven't used ICQ in a long time.

jtrivelli@adelphia.net


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Bryan Russell
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posted 01-09- 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bryan Russell   Click Here to Email Bryan Russell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is the same thing ( I think ) that I was talking to you about the other day. It has something to do with MAX2OBJ, or MAX iself, exporting normals longer or shorter than unit length. The OPS B1.1.1 I just releasedfixes this up, and it works fine for all of the instances of the excessive shadowing I had.


Bryan


P.S Isn't this OpenPlane thing great! never designed for swing wings or helicopters but it inheriantly handles it! I wonder what other little treats will surface! I dallied with the idea of doing the Tornado (which is another swing wing) just to see if it would work.

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Pete Hawk
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posted 01-09- 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pete Hawk   Click Here to Email Pete Hawk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bryan and JT, check your email

Maybe between the three of us we can fix the canopy thing. I'm not having any luck with it.

Thanks.

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Pete Hawk
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posted 01-10- 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pete Hawk   Click Here to Email Pete Hawk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
JT, my email to you just got returned to me. It's not working for some reason. Do you have another?

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Mudshark
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posted 01-10- 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mudshark     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The capabilities of the modellers in this group never cease to amaze me! Looking forward to these Pete!

mudshark

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JT
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posted 01-10- 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JT   Click Here to Email JT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pete,

That's odd. I received your message. I don't have another address, but jtrivelli@adelphia.net should work.

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roadtoad
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posted 01-10- 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for roadtoad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pete - saw your mention of my nendo export trick .. seem to have more luck exporting to truespace4 and fixing normals there than with max - just downloaded Bryan's new max script, however, so his note that this fixes those slightly offset verts looks promising.

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