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Spyder
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posted 12-08- 02:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spyder   Click Here to Email Spyder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's the latest version, removed the random option and added more theatres.
Multi textures for the B17G, Fw190 spinners added along with new plane types: Zero, Ju88 night fighter and Bf109E.
Out soon.

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Sp@nky
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posted 12-08- 02:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sp@nky   Click Here to Email Sp@nky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

cool man

love all those options

i love the d day now we can use all the d day skins for a recreation mission

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Jeeves
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posted 12-08- 04:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeeves   Click Here to Email Jeeves     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heya Spyder-

I hate to ask, because I am enjoying this application so much- but could you add the Dover Night theater to the mix? There are so many great night skins that people have done, and I have many night missions in my newest campaign- so that seems like that would be a good addition to the mix, n' est-pas?

Also, if anyone can tell me- where do I get the Pacific theater? I would like to start a Pacific campaign and need that one obviously .

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Spyder
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posted 12-08- 05:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spyder   Click Here to Email Spyder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey no problem Jeeves, I'll add that one too. Any other scheme names before I release it?
One or two more should make it all we will need I would think.
cheers

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Speedbrake
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posted 12-08- 07:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Speedbrake   Click Here to Email Speedbrake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay guys - I give - uncle! Where are the databases Pacific, Battle of Britain, and D-Day located for downloading? Or, are we just looking into the future? I usually keep pretty up to date reading topics on this forum.

Also Spyder - I know that there isn't any runways in it but what about the Tundra database?


Duh! Wait a minute - after posting this message I got to thinking that somewhere we have maybe mixed up "databases" with skin themes. Is this the case now? In other words, the Battle of Britain and D-Day selections use the Dover database but allow you to gain the correct skins for the specified time period. Is the light coming on correctly? Even if that is the case, the Tundra database could very easily be considered the Russian front. We do have a Yak skin for the Spit and a few German winter skins to boot.

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Spyder
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posted 12-08- 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spyder   Click Here to Email Spyder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Speedbrake:
The util doesn't use any terrain in particular, that's up to you which skin you want to use for the current terrain(s).

You place all your different plane scheme tifs in each folder then select what scheme you want to fly in for any mission. Selecting a theatre just copies what is in the theatre overwriting your \aircraft\planetype\textures with the skin.
So flying a mission in Africa doesn't mean you have to be using African skins, you could be using the night scheme or any of the others.

Basically it's just a way of separating 7 Lanc schemes for instance and then having the util replace your current texture before flying.
You can alt tab to the desktop and have them copied over while selecting a plane with the host, makes it interesting to see a new set of plane skins each mission.

The tundra database, is that Zoy's terrain? if so the Rhineland Winter option is for placing your yak and other suitable plane skins in. You needn't use the theatres as the names suggest neither, if you only like African schemes then use all 7 theatres to hold your African skins.
cheers

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Speedbrake
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posted 12-08- 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Speedbrake   Click Here to Email Speedbrake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spyder - the Tundra database was a release from MH (Parsoft). It is on his site where you got the Fokker, Funkytruck, etc.
http://www.openplane.org/

Have you never downloaded it?

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Spyder
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posted 12-08- 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spyder   Click Here to Email Spyder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Speedbrake, I remember some time ago that Zoycite did some snow terrain, I thought the tundra was his work.
At 22mb I don't think I'll download it though.
cheers

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Bryan Russell
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posted 12-08- 11:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bryan Russell   Click Here to Email Bryan Russell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That looks great spyder,

One think I thought of was that you could make the list of "theaters" a combo box, or list box, and allow the user to add "theaters" at will.

That would cater for the picky bunch around here that want there own theater of choice added

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Jeeves
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posted 12-08- 11:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeeves   Click Here to Email Jeeves     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for adding Dover Night, Spyder! As far as I know, Zoycite did Rhuneland Winter and MH did Tundra. Either way, I only have Rhineland Winter- and love flying over the river in it- it almost glistens as you're going over it. Thanks again for a great application, Spyder!!

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Speedbrake
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posted 12-09- 08:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Speedbrake   Click Here to Email Speedbrake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay - so where is the v1.1? Has it been released yet? I've checked your homesite and only the initial program v1.0 is there. Am I a little premature in looking for it?

Thanks!

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Spyder
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posted 12-09- 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spyder   Click Here to Email Spyder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah it's not finished as yet, Zoycite is trying to break it for me and I'm currently writing a proper windows help file for it.
Use v1.0 to get you going for now, it works fine.
Bryan, I was going to do something along that line but with eight 'theaters' (I picked up the spelling hint!) that should cater for all I would imagine. That's eight different skins for each plane available.
I may add that option later if it becomes necessary with all the planes coming out.

V1.1 should be ready by the weekend.
cheers

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Bryan Russell
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posted 12-09- 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bryan Russell   Click Here to Email Bryan Russell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It wasn't a spelling hint. If you looked closely at my spelling you would see that I'm in no position to criticise. In fact I even had to run this small paragraph through word so as to not embarrass myself.


Bryan

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Spyder
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posted 12-09- 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spyder   Click Here to Email Spyder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hehe no probs but the fact is your version was correct, I checked on it using word as well. I'll change all occurences of 'theatre' to 'theater' before it goes out.
Cheers

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Zoycite
JAG
posted 12-09- 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zoycite   Click Here to Email Zoycite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I must confess, I did Rhineland Winter. At this point all Terrain updates will be quite large. Ha, maybe I can Email it to ya

Theater spelling:

I just thought that was a Aussie thing

Off to break Cameleon.

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And look, I have to edit the message cause I cant spell either

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Bryan Russell
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posted 12-09- 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bryan Russell   Click Here to Email Bryan Russell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeh thats right, anything that doesn't look right in my posts from now on will not be incorrect, just an "Aussie" thing.

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In fact, why did I even bother editing this one.

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Michael
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posted 12-09- 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Michael   Click Here to Email Michael     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Theatre" is how it's spelled anywhere using English (as opposed to American) spellings so I would think it probably is an Aussie thing. It's "theatre" in Canada in any event.

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Bryan Russell
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posted 12-09- 11:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bryan Russell   Click Here to Email Bryan Russell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Damn you Bill Gates and your "default to US" spell checker!

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Spyder
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posted 12-10- 02:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spyder   Click Here to Email Spyder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah I found word keeps choosing US dictionary on startup even when I have selected Aus each time.
The US dictionary lists theater but not the Aus one.
The thesaurus shows:
battlefield
arena
combat arena
front lines
etc
etc

Nothing listed in the Aus one, so Theater it is.

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Zippo
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posted 12-10- 04:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zippo   Click Here to Email Zippo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No Spyder, don't do it!!! oh the humanity (sniff sniff) Theatre...theatre...theatre (clicking my heels as I spell the Oz way....wearing my thongs of course...not the Monica Lew version either). If you spell it "Theatre" and this program captures the world as SDOE is doing, the world will convert to the Oz spelling. hehehe, we'll be so powerful we won't need to be a republic.
How many cans of worms can you open with one post?

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Yardstick
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posted 12-10- 07:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yardstick   Click Here to Email Yardstick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good to see you Aussies still happy to speak the Queen of England's English

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Spyder
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posted 12-10- 08:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spyder   Click Here to Email Spyder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry Zippo, if we grab the world's attention with our spelling then the yanks will invade us with more than those crap tv shows!
Yardstick is Theater used in the Uk for a war theater or not?
I looked up the Macquarie dictionary and Theatre is the only word used for plays/cinema/surgical/war use with US spelling 'Theater' being the equivalent.
Might have to change it all back again! Hmmm maybe I should drop the word altogether and use Scheme instead!

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Yardstick
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posted 12-10- 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yardstick   Click Here to Email Yardstick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spyder,

From my Collins Concise (that's 1,391 pages of conciseness) English Dictionary:

THEATRE
1. a building designed for the performance of plays, operas etc...
2. ...etc
3. ...etc
4. ...etc
5. ...etc
6. ...etc
7. ...etc
8. ...etc
9. a major area of military activity.

Looks like Theatre for us Pommy and Aussie speakers of the Queen's English.

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spin
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posted 12-10- 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love the 109 graphic.

"Theatre" is the English, Canadian, Australian, everywhere in the world but the United States way. Theater is the American way. Don't change it, please.

Coming from a Canadian.

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Jerry
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posted 12-10- 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jerry   Click Here to Email Jerry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm pretty sure "Theatre" is the French spelling which the Brits adopted after William the Conqueror kicked Saxon butt and then you loaned to the Aussies. I know how much you Brits love the French so you can have it.

Your "Queen's English" has a French accent. LOL

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Spyder
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posted 12-10- 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spyder   Click Here to Email Spyder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's it then, Theatre wins.
Now to change it all again! My help file is loaded with the theater spelling.
Thanks guys

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Zoycite
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posted 12-11- 04:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zoycite   Click Here to Email Zoycite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heya,

I kinda liked the Theater spelling. Maybe to keep us foul mouthed Yanks happy, how about offering 2 versions, The correct way "Theater" and a "funny spelling" version "Theatre. I still dont see how "re" sounds like "er"

More crap TV coming your way,

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Yardstick
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posted 12-11- 04:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yardstick   Click Here to Email Yardstick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Contrary to popular belief American English is no more phonetic than English. Herb pronounced 'erb for instance. Why the asparite H?

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STef_EAF329
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posted 12-11- 05:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for STef_EAF329   Click Here to Email STef_EAF329     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, to have everyone happy, couldn't we have that theatre (theater for ones not speaking the language ) written in French? ;p

STef

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Bryan Russell
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posted 12-11- 06:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bryan Russell   Click Here to Email Bryan Russell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks like Spyder (or is that Spydre ? ) is going to have to delve into the world of multi-language UI programing

Bryan

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spin
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posted 12-11- 08:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now for the other bastardized words of the english language (of course it's debatable who has them right),
"re" vs "er"
theater vs theatre
center vs centre


"our" vs "or"
ie color, flavor

ize vs ise (by the way which is most common) We should standardise this one (standardize is the common Canadian way - but then we have a bit of local influence). The list seems to be long. Others anyone?

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Spyder
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posted 12-11- 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spyder   Click Here to Email Spyder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why do some people say hwite when the Only correct pronounciation is white?
I read something about this a while ago, I'll have to look it up again.

Here's one:
[Aus/Uk/Canadian] vs [USA]
"An Allied victory" | "We won the war!"

;-) yuk yuk!


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Speedbrake
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posted 12-11- 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Speedbrake   Click Here to Email Speedbrake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Being a Yank - I have to submit my vote for theatre! After all, this is a WWII or WWI (to some ) simulation and not a whole lot of fighting was done on US soil. Theatre has a Brit (European) flavor!

Just my $0.02 worth. But there is a point to be made about Spyder or Spydre!!!

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Zoycite
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posted 12-11- 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zoycite   Click Here to Email Zoycite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So why is the "re" not consistant in that funny spelling language? A good example was brought up. Why Spyder and not Spydre? Why is Football played with that funny round thing? Football should be played with an oblong ball and with the use of hands


And when is the rest of the world gonna realize that metric stuff just "ain't" gonna catch on

To be honest this is all in good fun and I'm glad that we have kept this post clean.

I dont know about the rest of the world but even here in the US, there are just as many differnt ways to speak and write that I often think that some people might be from a different planet. On RW, do we Yanks really sound the same? I met a person from New Zealand and thought she was Austrailan, boy was she offended. But to me she spoke like Spydre. Spydre later told me that there is a differnce in the way they pronounce and use words. Actually I enjoy seeing and hearing our cultural differnces, it really adds flavor or is it flavour, hmm this is getting confusing.

PS, Where can I find the rules for Austrailan
Rules Football, its fun to watch, but I have no idea what the heck is going on.

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Speedbrake
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posted 12-11- 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Speedbrake   Click Here to Email Speedbrake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Zoy - you think Aussie speak is strange - how about wein' Texans? We have a whole separate version of Winders!

Notice from Microsoft:

It has come to our attention that a few copies of the Texas
Edition of Windows 98 may have accidentally been shipped
outside of Texas.

If you have one of the Texas Editions you may need some help
understanding the commands.

The Texas Edition may be recognized by looking at the opening
screen.

It reads WINDERS98 with a background picture of the Alamo
superimposed on the Texas flag. It is shipped with a Leann
Rimes screen saver.

Also note the Recycle Bin is labeled Outhouse.
My Computer is called This Infernal Contraption.
Dialup Networking is called Good Ol Boys.
Control Panel is known as the Dashboard.
Hard Drive is referred to as Wheel Drive.
Floppies are Them Little Ol' Plastic Disc Thangs.
Other features: Instead of an Error Message you get a Winder
covered with a garbage bag and duct tape.

Terminology:
OK = ats aww-right.
Cancel = hail no.
Reset = aw shoot.
Yes = shore.
No = Naaaa.
Find = hunt-fer it.
Go to = over yonder.
Back = back yonder.
Help = hep me out here.
Stop = ternit off.
Start = crank it up.
Settings =sittins.
Programs = stuff that does stuff.
Documents = stuff I done done.

Also note that Winders 98 does not recognize capital letters
or punctuation marks. We regret any inconvenience it may have
caused if you received a copy of the Texas Edition. You may
return it to Microsoft for a replacement version.


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Bryan Russell
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posted 12-11- 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bryan Russell   Click Here to Email Bryan Russell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Zoycite : try www.afl.com.au I don’t know if the rules are there but it is the official AFL (Aussie Football League) site.

I’m a kiwi and I must say that I am mortally offended that I you all thought I was an Aussie!. I have offended quite a number of Canadians by calling them yanks, but that was just good sport rather than a mistake

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Katana
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posted 12-11- 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Katana   Click Here to Email Katana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Never mind Bryan I've been over here since 69 and I still get mistaken for an Aussie

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Spyder
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posted 12-11- 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spyder   Click Here to Email Spyder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Zoy, subtitute I for E and U when the kiwis speak.
Example:

For "six" say "sex"
For "hill" say "hull"
hmm might not sound right in yankee accent but you'll get the idea when you listen to one.

Oh yeah and they have lots of six with sheep there too.

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